Disappointed
Not much better than my PSA EPT MILSPEC trigger. I have other Geissele, Timney and Larue triggers and this is a step down. The heavier spring included measures 5.5 lbs vs the advertised 4.0 lbs and there is also a good amount of creep. This model is a bit less exepensive due to the simpler construction that makes it a little more difficult to install. Fortunatley Brownells has an excellent installation video because the included instructions are lacking in details. I don't recommend this trigger.
Bg-c
Good trigger. But instructions are lacking. Also slave pin was missing had to disassemble install and fit parts individually. Took longer to do that way.
Would you recommend this?
Yes, I would recommend to a friend
great Geissele trigger and a great price
Installed on a Stag Arms Model 8 Piston AR15. A very fast smooth and positive resetting trigger, great for 3Gun competition or any case where fast follow up shots are needed. short pull, clean break, and very short reset. its a 2 stage but, you almost dont feel that 2nd stage, the reset seems to be assisted making for fast follow up.
almost perfect
The ONLY think that kept me from throwing up 5 stars is that since switching out from the SD3G to these, I've been getting a few light primer strikes. I thought that G triggers used a full strength hammer spring...not sure if that's the case with these brownells/geissele hybrids. I run high volume thru DD MK18's and didn't have a single issue with the SD3G or SDC triggers...only when I switched to these to try out the curved trigger bow. Ammunition used was privi. When I started getting light strikes, I switched to IWI 62gr 5.56...same issue.The trigger breaks great and is essentially the same as an SD3G-no wall, just takeup followed by dropoff...just wish I could figure out the light primer strikes...
Trigger Me This
I bought this BRGF trigger for my DPMS 308 Oracle. I found that I needed to modify the trigger by removing .015 off the hammer after reading the instructions. Not knowing how critical this measurement was I decided to install in a 556 receiver instead. The install was very easy and the results were quit noticeable with the short reset and crisp break. I think the modification notification should conveyed before purchase. I really would have hated the made the modification and it would not have function.
Great trigger!
All Geissle products are fantastic. Make sure you read the bump fire disclaimer though (I did not read it until after installing and firing at the range). They clearly state that bump fires are possible depending on the tensions of the AR you are attempting to install this on. My first trigger went into a stock Colt M4 SBR. Not only did it bump fire, but there was NO reset turning my Colt into a slow cycling full auto. This was very disturbing until I read the disclaimer. I have since installed this trigger in a Spikes Tactical and a Diamond Back with no issues in either. Just realize it may not function perfectly in every AR.
This trigger is Fast
This trigger is definitely a high quality product. Personally, at $180 it's hard to justify since SSA-E's can often be found on sale for the same price. At $150, when it's on sale, this is tough to beat. I have this as well as an SSA-E and a DMR to compare to. I was not super impressed at first doing some dry firing. Slow pulling reveals some creep, felt movement. Not terrible, but I've come to expect a lot from Geissele. Second stage breaks cleanly, without any "wall", which is what I was looking for out of this trigger. Brought it to the range and my opinion has gone right back up. I've got this trigger in my 3-gun rig and if you want to throw some lead quickly this trigger makes it easy. The reset IS very short. It's awesome. Tried it against a friend's tuned trigger and found that the movement required for the B-GRF is so short that I was getting hung up on my friend's trigger, not releasing it enough. Overall, I would say this trigger at $150 is probably one of the best competitive shooting triggers you can buy. For 3-gun. I didn't have any issues shooting slowly from a bench, but some people might. At $180, I can't say I'd take it every day. 4 stars because of that.
Application Specific
As you read the descriptions, watch the youtubes, listen to friends, all the while wondering what trigger best fits my needs. It's impossible without accurate and fair descriptions. For instance, what does the trigger break like? For fast paced competition or tactical uses you'll never notice creep. You'll feel a nice, light, crisp trigger with a fantastical reset. HOWEVER, if you're sitting behind glass, even at 1x,,, and you start taking up the slack you'll reach a point where it moves into actual creep. And for a long range tactical rifle, especially if you're used to Jewell triggers, this much creep is unacceptable! It's not a dirty creep, but it's definite creep that lasts about 3/32's of pull. I bought and build two lowers with this trigger, but felt identical to each other. My AR with a JP trigger breaks more clean by half. So there you go. Did I receive two defective triggers? I doubt it. Quality seems very high, install was smooth enough but make sure you have towels around to catch those little springs just in case. Weight. With the Lyman gauge 5.1-5.8 with a straight back pull, not bad for an AR trigger but unacceptable for a bolt gun trigger. Let the application set your expectations. Using my steel weight pull gauge with a long roller guide 5 1/4 to 5 1/2. Fine triggers but I have a hard time with the price.
Gave it Another Try !!! :)
I Unfairly Reviewed this trigger a few days ago and compared it to my Wilson Combat TTU3Gun trigger which I still Feel is a Slightly Better trigger but costs substantially More so It SHOULD Be Better!!! But My Dad who is a 20 yr Army veteran installed this trigger the 1st time and He told me Brownells didnt include pins that were compatible w/ my PWS Mark 114 lower so He had to use the pins that were already installed in the lower and thats why when I fired 40 rounds of my rifle on Dec-13th -14 and thats what caused the pins to start walking out of the trigger cuz the silver circular attachment rings did Not fit my rifle,I spoke to a Brownells Gun Tech and He told me a Good gunsmith can install aftermarket pin hole rings that Would fit my PWS Perfectly so Im Awaiting installation on my PWS Mark 114 rifle which is Brand new and Already suffering from a Failure to feed Issue and Its already on its Way for repair back to manufacture for repair or replacement!!! Lol, Dont anybody Make anything right these days? :(
